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  1. 4 hours ago, Vinasis said:

    What about AOL email? is this a bot or an attempt to press a link and someone gets in trouble?

    Its a bot that auto generates posts based on the thread content I think, and then appends some ads. There is a lot of them in the forums.


  2. 19 minutes ago, Vinasis said:

    Does the github version require me to redo the settings with each restart? 

    Yes, it is more designed as configure once and forget type thing.

    But it is not that cumbersome to do, basically you go to "Manage Service" menu, there you can keep easily restarting the service each time you edit the config.

    I have a low priority todo item that would add live reload of the config but I dont think it is worth the effort.


  3. 6 hours ago, Klotz777 said:

    What i was referring to is, the physical connection of the RPM part of the fans should always be to the motherboard. They can still be controlled through software or assigned to different temp sources/sensors (at least with ASUS).

    That means asus has built in the controller into their motherboards, pretty cool. 99% of motherboards have a simple pwm controller that just reads cpu temperature and thats it. So having a separate box like thermaltake does means you can support more systems and dont have to worry about compatibility.

    6 hours ago, Klotz777 said:

    But if your software fails (and under WINDOWS it will sooner or later)

    Dont know about their official software but I wrote my own and it never failed once.

    You kinda confirmed that their software is bad, because windows does not cause the software to fail on its own.

    6 hours ago, Klotz777 said:

    Do we have a WINDOWS fan here? 

    Not a fan of any os, each has their place.


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    As soon as WINDOWS puts your machine to sleep or hibernation, every of these software controls will fail after waking up.

    Not true, the controllers work just fine after resuming from sleep, they didnt add support for that in their software so there is no way for it to work.

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    I don't know, why manufacturers even offer the possibility controlling RPM!

    Because it allows you to customize the fans even more? What if you want your front fans to respond to the temperature of the gpu instead of the cpu? What if you want to quickly switch profiles from gaming to quiet. There is a lot you can do when you can fully control everything.

    You have separate loop for cpu and gpus, currently if you would render something using 100% of gpu and 0% of cpu your fans would not spin faster and they would reach high temperatures. Similarly if you are using 100% cpu and 0% gpu you have 8 fans that are making noise unnecessarily.

    I would rather suggest adding one pwm input like in the sync controller that would act as a fallback that would control the fans if there is no software controlling it present.

     

    And yes, the software is ####. Its not windows.


  5. 1 hour ago, Vinasis said:

    Can the GitHub version keep the settings even after restart in a sense that it won't return to the controller default?

    Well, there is the same concept of boot/shutdown profiles in the github version, so you use the boot profile to change the defaults of the controller.

    1 hour ago, Vinasis said:

    I am not good actually with what I saw on github as I want to have 2 profiles for my 12 fans inside the case...8 will follow 1 profile and the other 4 will follow another.

    You can have as many profiles as you want, but yeah the github version is more complex to setup. The documentation is still WIP and can be quite hard if you dont know what to do.

    You can create an issue here and I can help you setup the github version if you want, but the 1.7 should work just fine if you need simple profiles.


  6. 2 hours ago, Vinasis said:

    Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions, if i may ask for some reason when I restart my pc the fans would get mixed settings, rgb lights go back to default and those that I set to zero start to spin and random stuff, I uninstalled the official software btw.

    The controller will use its default settings when there is no software controlling it. You can create a new profile and set its type to Boot and when you save it the controllers defaults will be set to those settings.

    But I think I made it so you cant stop the fans, you are forced to use manual speed so 20-100%.

    You can also set a Shutdown profile so when you are shutting down the system the fans will be set to a specific speed/rgb.


  7. 4 hours ago, Vinasis said:

    To confirm before trying to use the version 1.7 I went to the task manager and turned off the official software from there, or do i need to uninstall the official thermaltake software?

    You just need to make sure its not running, remember to also disable autostart.

     

    4 hours ago, spliffmonkney187 said:

    That is unfortunate to hear the GitHub one wont be getting a GUI. I will grab the old one then and give that one a shot. if anything I can try practice using the newer as well. Will let you know how it goes with the old one though.

    It might some day but its a lot of work for something you use only once on first setup and never again. The github version is made so it is heavily and easily extensible with custom effects/speed controllers/triggers/new devices, this makes it hard to design a gui.

    Also with right triggers you can make it very dynamic, like for example switch profiles when a program is launched, or program a custom discord trigger that changes rgb when you get a new message etc.

    2 hours ago, Vinasis said:

    but I noticed something else, 4 ports each one with a single fan all of them read the same temperature but the fan speed percentage is different? like one of them would go at 70% and another goes at 50% and another goes 66% although they're on the same profile, might there be something wrong that I am doing?

    You probably had the official software running and something broke.

    2 hours ago, Vinasis said:

    BTW Thanks a lot of your great work, hope you would continue with the gui version it makes people lives easier, unlike the crappy thermaltake support which does not exist "they're making sure their publicity gets ruined everyday".

    The gui version would need a complete rewrite for it to be further developed since it is written in a very limiting way, this is because I had less knowledge about the inner workings of TT controllers. So it is unlikely I will work on this version again, maybe someday I will add a gui for the github version.

    2 hours ago, Vinasis said:

    If you ever decide to go on with the gui version I guess everyone would hope for more rgb options <3

    The only supported effects in gui version are those builtin the controller, so I cant add more unless I rewrite 90% of the app.

    But you can write custom effects in the github version, if you have any in mind I could add those.


  8. 1 hour ago, spliffmonkney187 said:

    Hello, first of all thank you for making this program. I have been looking for an alternative to the tt software. I found out about this alternative and have been trying to get it to work. I have followed the instructions but for some reason the GUI that I see in other users posts does not appear. i only have the command style window with number commands that turns up. Am I missing something?

    I think you downloaded the version from github. It does not have gui right now, and probably never will due to the highly increased complexity compared to the old version.

    The old version is attached to the first post and it still works, but its much simpler and has some limitations (always assumes 12 leds and only uses built in effects)


  9. 2 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    Oh. the "All values to black" just turned half the loop "Off" and the other half remained on.
    It didn't exactly remedy that specific issue from earlier.

    Interesting, then my only suggestion is to try the github version because you can set how much leds each device has.


  10. 15 minutes ago, kewlmunky said:

    For the software to not need elevation they would have to disable it from monitoring your CPU temperature and you would also not be able to use the game, party, and movie lighting effects. I'm sure a lot of people would like that as an option, but that would require more features for them to produce. Which we have seen is a long, slow, and painful process for them.

    Or they could make it a service so you would only need to elevate once to install the service. It even makes the fans work before you login.

    But no one seems to make software that way, I guess the money is in the hardware not in software.

     

    @Bioacid

    You can try this if you want.


  11. 4 hours ago, Eatsrootsnleaves said:

    This looks quite interesting, the TT RGB Plus software has driven me partially insane so I'm keen to give yours a go.

    Latest update to TT RGB plus hasn't fixed the major profile bugs and quite frankly it's all over the place

    As I'm running 5 controllers and 25 devices  I might make a good test candidate.

    11 x Riing fans, 3 x Trio fans, PR22-D5 Plus pump, Pacific RGB Plus fitting set, 12 way and 8 way Strimer leads, Custom ARGB CPU, GPU and motherboard strips.

    Any suggestions on where to start, should I try the beta or go straight for the latest version?

    ####, yeah this will be a good stress test for the app. I think it would be best to try the latest version.

    Please go here and follow the instructions, I'll then help you create a config to test your devices.

    The riing fans, PR22-D5 and Pacific RGB fittings should work fine. I know that Trio will not work correctly right now because of 3 zone settings, if you can help me get the data that I need I'll implement them. Dont know about the strimmer and the strips, if they are connected to the thermaltake controllers it should work.


  12. On 1/26/2019 at 1:35 AM, View71 said:

    The real problem here is the controller is too cheap to (re)start on its own with given/memorized settings - it would cost at most $5.50 to implement such a auto restart function but apparently no way for TT to do this (let alone in a standard Win user account).

    Do they realize that the Floe 360 cost ~$269 in Australia? ... come again?

    There is no problem with the controller, its that their software is #### and they just did not code support for sleep/wake.

    There is a command they send to the controller when the application starts, all they have to do is listen for sleep/wake events and reinitialize the controller/connection. This is what I do in my app and it works just fine with sleep and hibernate.


  13. 3 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    Holy ####, did you just save me $900? xD WHAT THE #### TT?

    Edit:

    Since you have an understanding about pumps, moreso than me... I just flipped "PWM" mode in the BIOS, and am letting it run for now. Hella cool temps, but is this 1,700 RPM's okay for the pump? Makes me wonder in the 2 months I've had this build if the pump was getting burned out from all the stop/starting.

    Any insight would be colossal.

    Thx, always appreciated.

    LOL, well the pumps might be different but mine runs at 3000RPM on average load. And I think about 1500-1800 on idle.

    Also mine is setup differently, I have a dedicated pump port on my motherboard and Ive set the PWM curve to be always 100%, so it always gets full voltage, and then the RPM is controlled by the software/the pump itself based on temperature.

    Maybe it was not getting enough voltage on your previous BIOS settings and it was starting and stopping.


  14. 3 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    Looks like the same thing is going on. Something I wouldn't even be able to call TT about, because they'd be better off if my $900 CPU got fried..

    I'm going to have to switch to a closed loop, or something if it's NOT supposed to be acting like this..

    If you look at the software, it seems like the program has no control over the pump, at all. 

    Well, I dont know then.

    IMO it should not be doing that. Maybe the pump provides the wrong RPM values, or maybe HWMonitor is reading it wrong, or maybe the motherboard is providing the wrong value. There is a lot of stuff that could be wrong but it seems its just a problem with the values, if you dont feel the pump stopping and starting then the pump is fine.

    But for example my AIO spins the pump up and down depending on the load. If yours does not do that, your motherboard might not be controlling the pump correctly, or its by design and the pump always runs at static RPM. But that would be #### design from TT. You could read on how to connect AIO pump to your motherboard and how to setup PWM speed control in BIOS.


  15. 9 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    I could try the black route, but it plays the whole spectrum as if it were a fan, so at the 6th LED it stops the 'flow' per-say, and the next 6 colors come out at the first. It's not that big of an issue

    That might just be the way the controller is programmed, since you cant pass to the controller how many leds a device has, so I think it also assumes 12 leds per device. Thats why I said to try with the full black, maybe it detects the black as limit for leds.

     

    9 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    No changes. I would save at 0/20%, 50%, and 100%, and it seemingly ignores it. Acting the same every time. I don't know where the RPM setting in the GUI would be, but this is how it read. Note; The RPM goes to 0 for like 8 seconds, and spins up to 737, then back down to 0. I would assume this is working correctly given my PC is still running, so.. There's that. I'm terrible with tech on the meticulous level, so these are my findings. I'm open to any and all criticism.

    Hmm that sounds like it does not set the speed then. Unfortunately the old app only sets the speed by percent.

    The RPM going to 0 and back might be a conflict with another software, at least this is what was happening to RPM of my fans when I had the service and the official app running, they were both writing to the controller and it was freaking out. If the fans also see this behavior check if the official software is running. Aida64 added support for TT fans some time ago and it also causes this issue.

    9 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    This shows RPM for the CPU fan, but that is connected to the Motherboard, so the pump itself could be controlled outside of the app. This is my understanding, anyway. Correct me if wrong. I'm pretty sure the controller ONLY sees the RGB, and as they share the same connector, it was important when setting up to NOT put the LED into the CPU connector, as to not fry it. They're clearly labeled, but it's worth noting. 

    Ooh I see, so the pump is also connected to the PWM of the motherboard. I guess that means you can only configure rgb on the AIO and the pump is controlled by the motherboard speed controller. But that does not explain why it goes to 0 RPM. Does it also happen when you stop the service? Maybe you can control the speed but the TT controller and the motherboard controller are interfering with each other.

     

    10 hours ago, Zeonymous said:

    It has the GUI, but if you're working on a GUI for what you've mentioned I'll be checking back here regularly to see if that comes in.

    Dont know if I will be making a GUI for the new one since its a lot more complex. And you should check github if you want updates about the new version, I wont be posting about it here.

     

    2 hours ago, Jorgan said:

    Any chance in #### this software will work with the pure plus fans?

    Yes they should work fine. Although they have 9 leds and the software assumes 12 leds so some rgb modes might behave weird.


  16. @Zeonymous

    Wow yea antivirus be like that sometimes. Glad you figured it out.

    Im also using PIN and never had to disable it, so I dont know whats up with that, probably also the av. You could try changing the install to custom user/LocalService depending on which one you use now.

    And about the AIO, if I understand correctly you are saying that the AIO has 6 leds but the fans have 12, so the rgb modes are not displaying correctly, right? Yes, that is the limitation of the old version of the software, because when I was writing it I thought only fans would be supported. Now I know that all TT RGB Plus devices use the same commands to control the speed/rgb, so while the rgb will work on all devices, it thinks all of them have 12 leds. Although I think you could try setting the last 6 led colors to full black (RGB 0,0,0), maybe this will trick the controller.

    Also please note that I have not tested any pumps, so I dont know if the command that is sent to the controller is the correct one. Try setting the speed to manual and changing it from 20% to 100% and see if it makes a difference in sound/vibration etc.

    There are 2 commands, one sets speed by percent and one that sets speed by RPM. The pumps might use the second one.

     

    The new version on github allows you to specify how many leds are on each connected device, and a lot more features. But it might be hard to configure right now because it does not have GUI.


  17. 3 hours ago, guy.of.power@gmail.com said:

    I built ttcontroller service and installed it but I cant find where is RiingPlus.Gui.exe.

    Where is it?

     

    They new one has no gui yet. I dont know if I will make one because I added a lot of features that will make gui very complex. But I will see.

    You can download the old one in the first post. It works fine and has gui, but the code got a little messy from features some people requested.


  18. 37 minutes ago, Ghosty031 said:

    Pretty exciting :)

    Just wanted to say i now cant see any of my fans on the program 1.6v from a cold startup. Interesting as nothing has changed. I restarted the service and suddenly it can see them and from there i re applied the groups. Probably doesnt matter much as you are writing a whole new program haha.

    I wonder if a full power cycle, ie completely dissconnecting the PC from power overnight has an affect on the control box in some way?

    Yea try v1.7, it has no port detection that seems wonky on some setups. I will try disconnecting my pc from power and see if this will reproduce the issue.

    The new app also has no port detection, you configure each port manually by setting its name/led count/led rotation/led reverse and other stuff.

    Also at first the service will have no gui, only json file config.

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