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  1. On 3/4/2023 at 4:18 AM, Beyond said:

    How'd you go plugging the cables in the bottom row with the fans there?

    The legs/stands are fairly good, but I had been looking at trying to get a stand for it to be placed on for additional room below it, but after going through pages and pages of them on different websites, I couldn't find one that checked all the boxes for me.

    I have been away from my PC for several months, sorry I can't remember anything I didn't write here!

  2. 6 minutes ago, DV2FOX said:

    I'd like to dismount my top fan from my Core V71 to replace it with 2 140mm fans that are faster and well, exhausts even more air

    The thing that i'm worried about is that: If i dismount the top fan , will it might make the front fans to not work?. I mean, i actually don't know if the top fan has a separate connection to the case's top "mini motherboard" or if it's connected to the front one, meaning i'm screwed up or not..

    Any help?. The manual DOESN'T HELPS.

    The replacement fans are 2 BeQuiet! Silent Wings 3 140mm 1600RPM PWM

    I replaced my top fan with two 140mm fans (on a 280mm radiator); there were no issues affecting the front fans (I don't remember the connection specifics).

  3. On 9/10/2021 at 4:52 AM, Ray Stanley said:

    Hi Coyote, whilst searching the net, I came across this post. I wonder if you could point me in the right direction as to where you sourced these drive cages ? I have just bought a view 71 case and it has arrived with no cages at all  !

    Hoping you can help,

    Regards

    Ray Stanley.

    Thermaltake saw my earlier post and PM-ed me and sent me one free.  I'll PM you.

  4. HDDs that don't fit cages

    I've recently acquired a hard drive that doesn't fit the Core V71's beloved tool-free hard drive cages.  Both because:

    1.  The plastic thing that snaps into two holes on the side, only has one hole in the side of the hard drive to snap into.  To solve this, I used screws like in the old days for this HDD.

    2.  The two small plastic nubs that stick up from the cage's floor into the bottom of the hard drive, don't have holes in the bottom of the hard drive to stick up into, so I clipped most of them off with a wire cutter.  I was not thrilled to have to do this, so I wonder:

    Is there another compatible hard drive cage I could acquire that I would not have to modify any more of my current cages?

    FYI, the incompatible hard drive is a WD Gold 18TB (my 12TB version is compatible) model WD181KRYZ.

    CoreV71HDD-CageIncompatability.jpg

  5. @EasyRhino
    Since you hear more noise when it's mounted, maybe there's something loose in the upper part of the case?  (Maybe tape something that vibrates to it...like shaver?)

    Possibly it already had been loose though, and a new vibration by the fan made it noticable?

    In other words, it could be a case issue and/or a fan issue.

  6. *Installing my 280mm AIO*

    I bought an NZXT Kraken X63.

    First I tried installing it above the steel top of the case (in the removable plastic section).  That didn't work because the top wouldn't close (I think because the AIO was too wide; I think a 360mm AIO would have fit up there).

    Next I tried installing it at the top of the steel section of the case:

    With the hoses on the end of the AIO towards the front of the case, I would have needed to remove the cage that added the 9th HDD tray.  
    With the hoses on the end of the AIO towards the back of the case, it fit (quite tightly) against the top HDD cage.

    I also noted that I do *not* have the option to install an extra pair of fans onto the AIO for 'push-pull'; this is because of RAM clearance in my motherboard.

    My RAM height is 34.1mm; my motherboard is an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero.

  7. I think my negative pressure is good.  To help make sure I upgraded the rear fan to an Arctic P14 to go with the 280mm rad in the top (which I anticipate also upgrading the fans on, when Noctua's next gen 140mm fan comes out 2021Q4.  (I'm leaving the front 200mm fans stock, since TT designed the front panel so they're the only 200mm fans in the universe that fit.  Grrrr.)

  8. 22 hours ago, View71 said:

    Hmm, ya, I see - why not just use small cable ties to fix the fans and you only need 2 ties (diagonal mount) for each fan.

    Thanks for looking, and for your response confirming what I saw, View71.  

    I don't have small enough cable ties to fit through the fan holes, but I also don't see holes outside the ventilation holes to make that work.  If I had double-sided tape I could have tried that solution, but instead...

    I decided to move the fan one row of ventilation holes away from the front so I could use case fan screws.  But that couldn't work either, because then the other side of the fan's holes were blocked by the other row the feet block!  

    So I moved the fans two rows away from the front; fortunately my PSU is modular, but I'm still concerned with how little room there is next to the PSU for my cables.  I'm optimistic though; and now those cables will be air-cooled!

    CoreV71bottomFans-bot.thumb.jpg.42118a3d5a95c56480b0495ade2eae58.jpg

    CoreV71bottomFans-top.thumb.jpg.925c4457bbf8291e9481b19c5ed2750c.jpg

    I took your suggestion to use only two screws per fan, and you're right, they still seem very secure.  (I'll probably use four screws/fan anyway when I upgrade these two fans 2021Q2 when Noctua's NF-A12x25 comes out in black.)

    Incidentally, these fan positions are important to me because I want positive pressure in the case.

  9. First my question:  How do I (temporarily) remove the Core V71's front (bottom) feet?

    I ask in order to install the bottom (120mm) fans, which has been a frustrating project.

    The first things I tried (in part to avoid having to deal with removing the feet) were rubber fan mounts.

    First, I  tried
    https://amazon.com/gp/product/B0749BRLXW/

    RubberFanMounts2021-01-16.thumb.jpeg.6cca2e627622c387de7a7e644b750580.jpeg

    but their base turned out to be too thick to not warp the air filter.  So next I tried
    https://amazon.com/gp/product/B003JBOBOI/
    (because it's got a very thin plastic screw that can be outside the case all by itself so it won't warp the air filter)
    but as you can see

    Lamptron.jpeg.2a2cb513d317c257320daba64235d7bb.jpeg

    that's going to leave big gap (5 mm!) all around the fan (so the fan wouldn't bother to pull as much air through the filter).  But other than that (lol) they worked.

    So I decided to use standard case fan screws
    https://amazon.com/GCA-Computer-Cooling-Mount-Screws/dp/B083NTT1KN/
    which look like this:

    CaseFanScrews2020-01-16.thumb.jpeg.47d221145dcd07b902d37712aa79fa23.jpeg

    (and the case does come with enough--four--to mount one of the two fans)

    However, being screws, one needs to be able to use a screwdriver on them, and under the case (for the front-most row of holes) in the way of one's screwdriver are the case's plastic front feet, as can be seen here:

    Cove71-bottomFanMounts.thumb.jpg.678ad8cfeacd199bd1a1fd05dec4d56f.jpg

    And the only attachments that seem owner-adjustable are these plastic clips:

    CoreV71-FeetClip.thumb.jpg.890133d33e75e26d353adb13fcebcfa1.jpg

    (there's another one that looks like this, and I would need to remove the HDD cage mounts to get at it)

    I've tried pushing this plastic clip with a great deal of force, but it hasn't budged the slightest bit.  

    I'm rather angry with the Core 71 now.  These bottom fan positions were a deciding factor in my purchase.

    On a positive note, the big ventilation holes are just the right size for PC case screws (though a bit too small for the first rubber fan mounts I tried).

  10. Thank you very much for your reply, View71!

    Because of Covid, I'm not free to visit a hardware store (man, that makes nearly everything more difficult).

    And at first I'm using some 120mm fans I have on hand for which I don't have any mounts yet.  So I guess I'll grab some rubber mounts and hope they work; and if they don't, I guess maybe I can find some washers on Amazon to enable the rubber mounts to work in the nice large ventilation holes..

  11. That's interesting, View71.  The testing I saw that showed no advantage was 'noise-normalized'.  Maybe you're right that the extra fan/motor on a 360mm will deliver higher maximum cooling/noise.  Thankfully I don't think I need either.

    Though I am looking forward to seeing how Ice Giant's future thermosiphon maximized for AM4 compared, though.  While I like that AIOs don't block RAM slots, the small chance of leaks makes me nervous.

  12. Thank you very much for your reply, View71!

    I think I'll be OK with the 280mm; I don't plan on overclocking my 5950x, and when it gets hot here near San Francisco I just turn off the PCs anyway because no one here has ac.

    On a tangent, while I'd prefer a 420mm:
    While a 360mm has 10% more surface area (4,320sq-cm vs. 3,920sq-cm) that a 280mm, in the tests I've seen they're within margin of error, which I saw attributed to the larger fan size being more efficient.

  13. Has anyone installed a radiator in the Core V71's removable top section?

     

    I know that the manual shows a radiator at top of the main steel section of the case.  

     

    I'll be installing a radiator in one of these top positions.  Either way I think I'll be limited to a 280mm one because I'll have an ODD in the removable section and--as noted above--I've added a ninth HDD tray.

     

    I'm thinking of a 280mm NZXT Kraken X63.

     

    It seems like one might fit in the removable section if the hoses are positioned conveniently (which I'm hopeful they are if an X62 photo I found is relevant, but I can't tell from NZXT's X63 pictures).

     

    Has anyone tested whether if a radiator is at the top of the steel section, it's thermally beneficial/detrimental to also have fans above it in the removable top section?

  14. In case I'm not the only one who wondered if the Core V71 would accommodate three 3-HDD cages, I'm excited to report it does!

    To do so of course I needed to get a third 3-HDD cage to swap with the top 2-HDD cage. 

    Then it was simple and easy:

    I removed the bracket for the lower optical drive bay (it was held on securely by only 4 easily accessible screws).

    Then I slid the third 3-HDD cage into place.  Only the lower (not the upper) pair of thumbscrews attaching the top 3-HDD cage  fit the holes, but I'm thrilled to report that since it is also on rails, it is (like the other HDD cages) absolutely rigid, it doesn't move at all.

    So now, exactly as I had hoped, I have traded my bottom optical bay for a ninth HDD bay!

    It looks like I have also made it so that a 360mm radiator wouldn't fit on the top of the case (though a 280mm one will still easily fit).

    TTCoreV71-9HDDTrays.jpg

    TTCoreV71-9HDDTrayLeftovers.jpg

  15. On 10/11/2020 at 3:57 PM, coyote said:

    Does anyone know if 200mm Noctuas will fit in front (and top?)?
    If not, will other 200mm options fit?

    I'd like the share my answer to my (and others') question of whether a Noctua 200mm fan will fit in the TT Core V71.  (Ditto a 200mm BitFenix BFF-LPRO-23030B-RP I already had.)

    Note than I only looked at this question WRT the front fans (sorry, I plan to put a radiator in the top).

    For neither alternate 200mm fan is thickness an issue; while I'm not sure you can tell from the photos, I think both are exactly the same thickness as the stock TT 200mm fans.  This is important because the mesh filter is right up against the fans.

    And mounting holes are not an issue for either alternative fan either; one of the sets of holes for each alternative fan matched the case holes.

    However, the stock TT fan width is perfectly minimal to fit the case, and both alternative fans are wider, and would thus need to be modified to fit.

    The Noctua fan's inner edge hole is all one would need; to fit inside the front panel attachments the rest of the four edge extensions would need to be cut off.  The plastic is hard and I think resilient.  

    The BitFenix fan is nearly circled by holes; nearly all of them would need to be cut off the fan.  The plastic is hard but also I think brittle.

    To complicate matters further, there's the manual warning about using other fans burning out the controller.  (Furthermore, when I owned a similar TT case a dozen years ago with only one front 200mm fan, I vaguely recall something I did wrong connecting it burned out the fan; I think I may have figured that out and got an alternate  replacement working.)

    With all that, I don't think I'm going to deal with modifying alternative 200mm fans to fit the case in the short term.

    The pictured Noctua is a Noctua NF-A20 PWM chromax.black.swap

    NoctuaTop.jpg

    NoctuaSide.jpg

    BitFenixTop.jpg

    BitFenixSide.jpg

    BothTop.jpg

  16. On 10/11/2020 at 3:57 PM, coyote said:

    I'm about to build my first system, and to do so in my new Core V71!

    I know nothing about fan control, and googling Guides/Tutorials didn't help much, so please help me.

    I'm considering replacing all the stock fans and populating all fan positions with either fans, or an AIO (probably on the top; I know the AIO will come with it's own control solution).  
    1.
    I plan to prioritize function over aesthetics, so I wonder:
    Does anyone know if 200mm Noctuas will fit in front (and top?)?
    If not, will other 200mm options fit?  (A dozen years ago I had fit issues when trying to replace a stock 200mm fan on a TT case.)

    2.
    The manual says 
    "Fan speed and light controller are only compatible with built in 200mm LED fans. To avoid on damaging the circuit board, please do not connect it with other fans."
    Does this mean that I'll be using a separate fan-controller to control all my chosen fans (including those I replace the stock ones with), and that the case's fan controller and buttons must be useless to me?

    3.
    I've started looking at fan controllers.
    Would it be a bad idea to (and can one?) use some kind of adapter to connect more than one fan to the same connection on a fan controller?

    Bump, please?

  17. I'm about to build my first system, and to do so in my new Core V71!

    I know nothing about fan control, and googling Guides/Tutorials didn't help much, so please help me.

    I'm considering replacing all the stock fans and populating all fan positions with either fans, or an AIO (probably on the top; I know the AIO will come with it's own control solution).  
    1.
    I plan to prioritize function over aesthetics, so I wonder:
    Does anyone know if 200mm Noctuas will fit in front (and top?)?
    If not, will other 200mm options fit?  (A dozen years ago I had fit issues when trying to replace a stock 200mm fan on a TT case.)

    2.
    The manual says 
    "Fan speed and light controller are only compatible with built in 200mm LED fans. To avoid on damaging the circuit board, please do not connect it with other fans."
    Does this mean that I'll be using a separate fan-controller to control all my chosen fans (including those I replace the stock ones with), and that the case's fan controller and buttons must be useless to me?

    3.
    I've started looking at fan controllers.
    Would it be a bad idea to (and can one?) use some kind of adapter to connect more than one fan to the same connection on a fan controller?

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