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  1. skypine27

    View 71 io

    Kind of a bummer but with anything made in China, youre bound to expect this to happen from time to time. I really like the View 71 TG/RGB I just did a built with. Thankfully it didnt come with any hard to remove screws!!
  2. Man, is the View 71 TG/RGB really unpopular?
  3. I just joined! My thoughts / review below : (Hopefully the pics transfer ok) I recently migrated about as high end a system as you can build (Asus Rampage VI Extreme, 7980XE, 2 x Titan Xps) from a Thermaltake Core V51 to the fairly new V71 TG RGB edition. Heres my thoughts. THE BAD: -Like the Core V51, Thermaltake is taking leeway with saying these cases will accept E-ATX mobos. While it's true the mobo will technically fit onto the preinstalled mounts, in both cases it leaves a lot to be desired. E-ATX boards are too wide by about 1", so you totally lose functionality of the 2 x rubber grommet cable pass-throughs to the right (where you would normally pass your 24 x pin mobo power cable and your HD sata cables through to the backside of the case). The right edge of the board completely covers them. With the V71, I had to take a dremel cutting tool and cut some of the useless metal "ladder work" to the right of the covered up grommets to make my own cable pass-throughs to the back. -I never understood why Thermaltake has done this with both of their cases that I've owned (The Core V51 had this problem as well): There is a metal "L-shaped" bracket that is not removable (it's fused with the motherboard tray) that is designed to "press down" on the top of your PSU, I guess as added downward mounting pressure. I could see this being only slightly useful in the event you are buying a pre-made OEM PC with a Termaltake case. In the event the shippers drop or are rough with your box the, downward pressure of the metal L-bracket would help keep the PSU more securely in place than just the typical 4 x small metal screws in back that are normally used to secure it. But with any high end mobo that has the extra 4 x pin molex power connector on the bottom to provide additional power specifically to the GPUs, that metal bracket prevents you from attaching the power cable. It completely conflicts with the molex plug and there is no way at all to connect it. What I had to do in both cases was to take my Dremel cutting wheel and physically cut off this bracket (again, its part of the mobo tray so you cant just unscrew it). Both these issues in my mind make the V71 (and the Core V51 I had before it) NOT officially E-ATX compatible but Thermaltake insists they are. THE GOOD: +It's all about the glass! The thing looks great and my attached quick cell phone pics DONT do the visual impressiveness anywhere close to justice. I took these quick snapshots with an iPhone X and it has a little trouble focusing on the glass and I notice the pic makes the front glass look blurry (which it's not in person). In RL, this case screams (to me anyway) art work. It's not In-Win S-Frame, but it's also not 1500 dollars!! +Personally (though this COULD go in the "THE MEH" section for some people) I like the "back" (ie right) side tempered glass closing door. Not because of the looks, the back of my case is a TOTAL MESS but I place that side against a wall so you dont see it. But it does provide a lot of "depth" for very easily containing a LOT of cables, fan controllers, RGB remote receivers, etc. The case already has about a full 1" of depth for cable management back there, and the glass doors on both sides do NOT close flush. They have thick rubber stoppers almost .5" thick that give you even more room because neither door closes even close to flush with the side of the case. This is the first case I've ever had that actually had room for creative mounting of a BACKSIDE of the MOBO fan! I have slim line Thermaltake (the same thats on the inside of my radiators) 120mm fan mounted as a "pull" on the back side of the CPU plate. This is what gives the red glow on the right side of the case in a couple of my pics. The reason I said this big gap could be a "meh" for some is because it would NOT be good for noise (or looks). If you are running high RPM fans (I went for near total silence and use the ASUS BIOS to stop all my fans except for 2 x on one of the radiators except for high CPU temps) you might want to consider this is basically an open-air case with respect to noise. Here is a nightmare pic of the right side of the case!!! I'm an RC airplane guy so there is some use of RC velcro and double sided servo tape here (which I had not finished for the Asus EXT fan controller on the right or the RGB remote module, the crappy white tape was just a test fit). But right now I have 10 x fans installed, and when Im done I will have 3 x more in the front. 13 fans, a RGB remote box 3 x RGB LED strips, and only 2 x SSDs make for a LOT of cables back there and I dont know how anyone could make that look clean. But the wide berth the glass panel gives you by not closing flush makes it really easy to say "WHO CARES" and just slam it #### and screw it down! (well, as long as no one can see your backside!). You can also see the rather unique space this case gives to mount a back side of the mobo fan. I have the slim (25mm) 120mm Luna test mounted with double sided tape back there. I will keep it on ( but with cleaner black double sided servo tape and rubber bump stoppers) to gently suck some hot air off the backplate and force it out the top of the gap, and it gives the red glow you can see in some other pics Again, all I can say is GLASS GLASS GLASS!! THE MEH: +/-In the V51, I was able to comfortably mount all 3 x of my radiators and have them "fully fanned" on the inside. But in the V71, the top of the rear 120mm exhaust port rad conflicts with the rear of the top 360mm rad, and I had to remove a fan on the top rad to make it work. Thermaltake isnt really good in its instructions about address more than one radiator builds. They say stuff like "supports up to a 420mm rad" for the various mounting positions, but they never tell you what combinations of multiple radiators will fit. I have 3 x in this case, a 360 on top, a 420 in front, and a 120 in the rear. +/-Its HEAVY. I'm guessing its 60lbs with my system (my setup holds 1.25 L of water) +/- Noise. Mine is almost dead silent BUT like I said, I have the ASUS Q-Fan BIOS option set to totally stop all the fans except the 2 x thin model fans mounted on the bottom of the top rad (exhaust blowing up wards) Those are the only 2 x fans on (and theyre low RPM, 800 RPM) until my CPU hits 55 C, then the multitude of other fans start to spool up slowly. The only time any of the other fans are ever on is during gaming and then I have my desktop speakers wall-shaking loud so it doesnt matter. For movie and desktop use, its totally silent and the only noise making thing in the PC room is my 3 x 7200RPM hard drive external USB box. But if you were going to build a totally air cooled system, especially with factory cooling on Titan Xps or 1080 Tis..... noise would be an issue with this case. It doesnt have the looks of totally "open air" like the P5 or In Win exotic cases, but with the almost 3/4" gaps on both side panels and the top and front glass.... for noise purposes it may as well be an open-air case. Conclusion: I LOVE the looks. Thermaltake (to me anyway, I know its subjective) is one of those companies than can make a really snazzy looking case without breaking the bank like an In-Win S-Frame. BUT they should REALLY make that silly L-shaped PSU pressure bracket easily removable for guys who need to connect the bottom MOBO molex power plug. And, either they should move the cable passthrough cuts out 1" to the right so people who mount E-ATX boards can actually use them or come out with a full disclaimer "If using an E-ATX mobo you will lose access to the right side cable pass through grommets". PICS: top view, all buttoned up. I put the 3 x included 140mm RGB Riing (but they arent the Riing + models) up top: Here you can see where I couldn't mount the 3rd fan on the top 360mm rad because it conflicts with the rear 120mm rad's intake/exhaust ports. This is a bit discouraging because I'm using the same 120mm fans as I had in the Core V51 (Thermaltake 120 x 25 mm Lunas). But in the V71 TG, the rear exhaust port is about 1" closer to the top than it was in the Core V51, so if you are trying to use a rear rad + a top rad, you wont be able to fit a fan on the left side of the top rad. This is where I say Thermaltake is lacking, they need to point out what COMBINATIONS are ok for custom water, not just what rad will fit in each slot if there are no other rads mounted. There are some oddball (Coolermaster) 120mm fans that are only 12mm thick, and I might be able to fit one of those in the "left" slot. But that would mean fitting 3 x of them to the top rad to keep the looks consistent. They arent RGB of course, they are cheap looking black plastic fans. Not sure if having 3 x of them would look better than having 2 x 25mm Lunas. Will have to think about this for a while (1st World problems!): Here you can see the front area of the case. The front rad is a 420mm Blackice slim line. I have 3 x 140mm Thermaltake white LED Lunas (again, the think 25mm model) mounted in a "pull" setup. I will be putting 3 x 140 mm Riing Plus to the other side of the rad as a push setup but this is mostly for looks, so you can see their RGB thru the front glass panel. All these fans will only turn on when the CPU exceeds 55C, to keep a silent PC when web browsing or watching a movie: top view "nude", of the 3 x included 140mm RGB Riing (but not + models) that came with the case: Front. No "push" front intake fans yet. I have 3 x 140 mm Riing Plus fans ready to go in, but the case is so heavy Ive been putting off moving it to put them in! Some more: Here you can see the red glow on the right side created by the Thermaltake 120mm Red Luna fan that I have Rube Goldberg mounted on the back side of the mobo tray, directly attached to the CPU back plate area:
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